Ford v Ferrari Pt. 2: Empowering Radical Innovation
In this episode of Lead Wisely by WonderTour, Brian Nutwell and Drew Paroz continue their deep dive into leadership lessons from Ford vs. Ferrari. In this second part of their discussion, they explore the necessity of having radical innovators like Carroll Shelby and Ken Miles on your team when attempting to drive transformation and innovation within an organization.
The conversation kicks off with a critical question: "Do you need a radical innovator on your team to achieve transformation?" Drew and Brian draw parallels between the movie's characters and real-world leadership roles, discussing how leaders can identify and empower these innovators within their teams.
Throughout the episode, they highlight key strategies for fostering innovation, including embracing quick iterations, empowering teams with autonomy, and balancing the needs of the organization with the radical ideas of visionary individuals, emphasizing the importance of leadership in guiding these innovators, even when their approaches may be unconventional or uncomfortable.
If you're looking to enhance your leadership approach and drive innovation in your team, this episode offers valuable insights into managing high-performing, radical teams.
Key Takeaways:
- Radical innovators are essential for transformative change.
- Leadership involves balancing empowerment and guidance.
- Quick iterations and feedback loops are critical in innovation.
Memorable Quote:
"If you're not uncomfortable, you're probably not innovating hard enough."
"If you're not uncomfortable, you're probably not innovating hard enough."
Creators and Guests

Host
Brian Nutwell
Brian Nutwell is an experienced product, process, and analysis leader. He loves connecting with other people and their passions, taking absolutely everything back to first principles, and waking up each day with the hope of learning something new. He is delighted to join Wonder Tour, to help discover pragmatic leadership lessons in our favorite mythic stories.

Host
Drew Paroz
Drew Paroz leads at the intersection point of people, data, and strategy. For Drew, nothing is better than breaking down problems and systems into building blocks of thought except using those blocks to synthesize fresh models. Drew is on a lifelong Wonder Tour to help take those building blocks into life change in himself and others.
