Iron Man Pt. 2: Leadership in the Age of AI
In this episode of *Lead Wisely by Wondertour*, Brian Nutwell and Drew Paroz dive into the Marvel classic *Iron Man* (2008) to explore leadership lessons in an age dominated by technology and AI. Using Tony Stark’s journey from egocentric playboy to responsible hero, the hosts discuss the critical balance between using technology to augment human abilities versus replacing humans altogether.
The conversation contrasts Stark’s innovative approach to the Iron Man suit, which evolves through experimentation and adaptation, with Obadiah Stane’s brute-force mindset. They delve into key leadership questions: How do we use technology responsibly? When should technology augment human capability rather than replace it? Stark’s gradual transformation mirrors this leadership arc—moving from a detached arms dealer to a hands-on hero who takes ownership of his creations and their consequences.
Key takeaways include:
- **Ownership of Technology**: Leaders must fully engage with the tools they create, understanding their real-world impact.
- **The Role of Conflict in Growth**: Constructive, loving conflict is essential for personal and organizational growth.
- **Purpose-Driven Innovation**: Leaders should ensure technology aligns with values and serves a meaningful purpose beyond mere efficiency.
With insightful reflections on responsibility and the ethical use of technology, this episode encourages leaders to rethink how they engage with innovation in their own lives and organizations.
Don’t miss this engaging discussion about how the Iron Man suit is more than just a weapon—it's a metaphor for leadership in the modern world.
The conversation contrasts Stark’s innovative approach to the Iron Man suit, which evolves through experimentation and adaptation, with Obadiah Stane’s brute-force mindset. They delve into key leadership questions: How do we use technology responsibly? When should technology augment human capability rather than replace it? Stark’s gradual transformation mirrors this leadership arc—moving from a detached arms dealer to a hands-on hero who takes ownership of his creations and their consequences.
Key takeaways include:
- **Ownership of Technology**: Leaders must fully engage with the tools they create, understanding their real-world impact.
- **The Role of Conflict in Growth**: Constructive, loving conflict is essential for personal and organizational growth.
- **Purpose-Driven Innovation**: Leaders should ensure technology aligns with values and serves a meaningful purpose beyond mere efficiency.
With insightful reflections on responsibility and the ethical use of technology, this episode encourages leaders to rethink how they engage with innovation in their own lives and organizations.
Don’t miss this engaging discussion about how the Iron Man suit is more than just a weapon—it's a metaphor for leadership in the modern world.
Creators and Guests

Host
Brian Nutwell
Brian Nutwell is an experienced product, process, and analysis leader. He loves connecting with other people and their passions, taking absolutely everything back to first principles, and waking up each day with the hope of learning something new. He is delighted to join Wonder Tour, to help discover pragmatic leadership lessons in our favorite mythic stories.

Host
Drew Paroz
Drew Paroz leads at the intersection point of people, data, and strategy. For Drew, nothing is better than breaking down problems and systems into building blocks of thought except using those blocks to synthesize fresh models. Drew is on a lifelong Wonder Tour to help take those building blocks into life change in himself and others.
